After more than 1,600 episodes over 16 years, American comedian Marc Maron released the final episode of his podcast this week. His last guest: Barack Obama.
I love Marc Maron, his humor, his conversations, and I'm going to be sad that he's stopping. He was one of the first to launch this long-form format at a time when podcasts weren't cool yet.
I found some powerful ideas in this conversation that connect with what I've been thinking about lately. Here are a few of Obama's remarks that struck me:
- At the end of the day, you don't need to agree on everything to work with someone.
- Know what you truly believe in. That's the starting point.
- The post-World War II period wasn't perfect. But at least there was a shared story.
- You have to be tolerant of people. As long as they're not actively trying to harm you, you have to be tolerant.
- Sometimes you win and you're happy. Sometimes you lose and you step back for a while to lick your wounds before coming back. But we're not going to try to destroy you because you lost.
- One of the necessities of liberal democracies is accepting partial victories, not just perfection. The only question is: is it moving in the right direction?
- We're probably going to overshoot the 2-degree Celsius target. Because it's very hard for humans to change their primary energy source in one generation. But we've made progress.
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- A Bit Depressed by the World
- People who make me believe (French Instagram Reel)
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